Public and political: letters and other papers sent by Admiral Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher].

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Date: 1907 - 1919

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CHAR 2/92/1 Note by [Lord Fisher, earlier Sir John Fisher] to [WSC] referring to a reference to Lieutenant-General Sir William Robertson in the Daily Telegraph of 5 April 1917. [1917]
CHAR 2/92/2 Notes by cataloguers on certain items in this file. c 1965
CHAR 2/92/3 Cuttings from the Daily Mail on British shipping losses from submarines and mines and German satisfaction with the performance of their U-boats. With typescript comments by [Lord Fisher, earlier Sir John Fisher]. c 1917
CHAR 2/92/4 Note by [Lord Fisher, earlier Sir John Fisher] that if the recent return of British shipping losses is correct Arthur Balfour [later Lord Balfour] [First Lord of the Admiralty] was right to reprimand Admiral Sir John Jellicoe [later Lord Jellicoe] for saying that the German submarine menace had been grappled with effectively. c 1917
CHAR 2/92/5 Extracts from press reports of German confidence in their submarine programme, Apr 1916. Typescript copy annotated with comments in 1917. Apr 1916 - 1917
CHAR 2/92/6 "Monthly summary of vessels sunk by enemy submarines since August 1914.". Apr 1914 - 1917
CHAR 2/92/7 Note by cataloguer that the following items appear to have been sent to WSC by Lord Fisher but that there is no indication of their dates or purpose. Jul 1962
CHAR 2/92/8 Comments by Rear-Admiral Doveton Sturdee on long commissions in the Royal Navy. Signed and annotated typescript. 01 Sep 1912
CHAR 2/92/9-10 Comments by Rear-Admiral Doveton Sturdee on the advantages which would be gained if officers and men in the Royal Navy knew that they had some certainty of remaining in their ship for a commission unless they were promoted or appointed to go through some course for their advancement. Signed and annotated typescript. 01 Sep 1912
CHAR 2/92/11-12 Letter from J W Reed, manager of Palmer & Co, Jarrow [County Durham], on the need for British firms to make rapid progress with the development of diesel engines for warships in order not to fall behind Germany in this field. Typescript copies. 24 Dec 1912
CHAR 2/92/13 Telegram from [Lord Fisher, earlier Sir John Fisher] to the British Consul in Punta Arenas [Chile] asking him to acknowledge a telegram sent to him on 6 January authorising him to spend money to obtain secretly copies of telegrams sent by "Dresden" while at Punta Arenas. 29 Jan 1915
CHAR 2/92/14 Telegram from [Lord Fisher, earlier Sir John Fisher] to the "Queen Elizabeth" stating that the ship cannot remain at Gibraltar more than 48 hours and that Sir Percy Scott states that the director instruments [for the guns] can be adjusted in a day. 29 Jan 1915
CHAR 2/92/15-18 "The submarine. (A contribution to the consideration of future sea fighting.)" Extracts from a memorandum presented by Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to the Prime Minister [Herbert Asquith, later Lord Oxford and Asquith] in February 1914, with related extracts from the Truth (4 Feb 1914) and the Daily Mail (2 Dec 1915). Printed. Another, incomplete, copy at CHAR 2/92/77-79. 1914 - 1915
CHAR 2/92/19 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC offering his services as "a pusher and organiser" and asserting that "the air will win the war now" as a result of Arthur Balfour's [later Lord Balfour] apathy with the Navy. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/20. [1917]
CHAR 2/92/20 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/19. [1917]
CHAR 2/92/21 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (36 Berkeley Square, [London]) to WSC reporting that he has heard that WSC is to go to Scotland with David Lloyd George and is involved in a conference on a British military advance along the Belgian coast in conjunction with a naval action. Asserts that "success depends on smoke and gas from the sea." Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/22. [1918]
CHAR 2/92/22 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/21. [1918]
CHAR 2/92/23 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC on his scheme for "protentous hippopotami" [large amphibious craft for an attack on the German coast]. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/24. 11 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/24 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/23. 11 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/25 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (36 Berkeley Square) to WSC enclosing [a Westminster Gazette article on aerial defence] and wishing WSC would replace Lord Cowdray [at the Air Board]. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/26. 09 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/26 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/25. 09 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/27 Newspaper cuttings on: on the overriding necessity of defeating Germany; the advantages of the new oil-driven battleships; the need for a more co-ordinated system of defence against German air raids. [1917]
CHAR 2/92/28 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC mentioning Sir Ernest Moir [naval engineer] as the one man who could tackle a scheme of WSC's. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/29. 06 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/30 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC on arrangements for a meeting between them; C P Scott's belief (shared by Fisher) that there is a real danger of revolution in Britain ("thousands upon thousands of leaflets a la Russe are now being circulated from hand to hand!"); the air as the key theatre in the war. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/31. 04 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/31 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/30. 04 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/32 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC referring to to the five new fast battle cruisers and stressing the need for oil to be stored for oil-driven battleships. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/33. 01 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/33 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/32. 01 Jul 1917
CHAR 2/92/34 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (36 Berkeley Square) to WSC stating that Arthur Balfour's [later Lord Balfour] influence will ensure that WSC's "excellent project" will not come off and that 1st Lord Reading [earlier Rufus Isaacs] "is deeply impressed with the present gravity of the sea situation." Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/35. 02 May 1917
CHAR 2/92/35 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/35. 02 May 1917
CHAR 2/92/36-39 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC on: the danger that WSC might hamper his "Great Resolve" [the plan for an offensive on the Belgian coast] by associating Fisher with it, even though Fisher himself feels very fit for his age; the aircraft, mine-laying facilities, submarines and other vessels required for the attack; the need for an immediate "Big Change" in Admiralty building policy. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/40-41. 15 Apr 1917
CHAR 2/92/40-41 Typescirpt copy of CHAR 2/92/36-39. 15 Apr 1917
CHAR 2/92/42-43 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC attacking Admiralty policy under Arthur Balfour [later Lord Balfour], which has led to the Navy "taking a back seat in this War!" In particular: the failure to recapture Antwerp [Belgium] and let the Russians into Berlin from the Pomeranian coast; ignorance about the German submarine programme; the failure to prevent shipyard workers being drafted into the army. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/47. 11 Apr 1917
CHAR 2/92/44-46 Statement by Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] asserting that the presence of the five fast new battle cruisers 'Furious', 'Glorious', 'Courageous' and 'Renown' would have prevented Admiral Sir David Beatty [later Lord Beatty] being surprised by the German High Sea Fleet and blaming Arthur Balfour [later Lord Balfour] for the delay in the completion of these vessels. Typescript copy at CHAR 2/92/48-49. [Apr] [1917]
CHAR 2/92/47 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/42-43. 11 Apr 1917
CHAR 2/92/48-49 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/92/44-46. [Apr 1917]
CHAR 2/92/50 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (Ferne Donhead, Salisbury, [Wiltshire]) to WSC mentioning that he has had influenza , bemoaning the impending German annexation of the Russian fleet and attacking the timid policy of the Admiralty. 19 Feb 1918
CHAR 2/92/51 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (Hamilton Palace, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, [Scotland]) to WSC regretting that he will not be able to dine with him because he has a chill. 04 Mar 1919
CHAR 2/92/52 Picture postcards of Hamilton Palace [Larnarkshire, Scotland] and wild white cattle in Cadzow Forest, Hamilton. c 1919
CHAR 2/92/53 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (Ferne, Donhead, Salisbury, [Wiltshire]) to WSC stating that he will be glad to see him "at this tragic moment with the Germans only a few miles from Amiens [France] and so threatening the starvation of London by stopping the Channel traffic". Deplores the fact that the Royal Navy is still to be kept "in cotton wool" and announces his intention of speaking about it in the House of Lords. 1918
CHAR 2/92/54 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (Ferne, Donhead, Salisbury, [Wiltshire]) to WSC: "I hope you'll remember my entreaty to move to another sphere!". c 1919
CHAR 2/92/55 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC explaining his role in the [Dardanelles campaign] and asserting that "the outside world is quite certain that I have pushed you and not you me" and that [Herbert Asquith, later Lord Oxford and Asquith] is the only one who knows that the opposite is true. Typescript copy incorrectly dated 12 April 1918. [1915]
CHAR 2/92/56 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC on Rear Admiral Sir Archibald Moore's discontinuing the action [at Dogger Bank] despite the German ships 'Derfflinger' and 'Seydlitz' being badly damaged, and Buller's "mental paralysis". Believes that "we were within a few minutes of a glorious victory." Typescript copy wrongly dated 27 January 1918. [27] [Jan] [1915]
CHAR 2/92/57-58 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to WSC on medical treatment for Admiral Sir John Jellicoe [later Lord Jellicoe] and the deployment of various vessels. Incomplete typescript copy wrongly dated 30 January 1918. [30] [Jan] [1915]
CHAR 2/92/59-60 Letter from Admiral Sir Francis Bridgeman, Commander-in-Chief, Home Fleet (Sheerness, [Kent]) to Sir John Fisher [later Lord Fisher] reporting that Lord Charles Beresford's memorandum on the results of the October North Sea Manoeuvres contains criticisms of senior officers and Admiralty shipbuilding policy by Sir Reginald Custance which should not be read by junior officers. Typescript copy. 04 Jan 1908
CHAR 2/92/61 Memorandum by Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] arguing that submarines preclude the presence of large warships and the passage of trade through the Mediterranean and that Britain should concentrate on maintaining a supreme fleet in the North Sea. Printed. 18 Jun 1913
CHAR 2/92/62-72 Memorandum by Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (36 Berkeley Square, [London]) to [Herbert Asquith,later Lord Oxford and Asquith] on the Admiralty policies which have led to the shortage in the Grand Fleet of destroyers and small craft, and delays in constructing large submarines with 12-inch guns. Typescript copy. 15 Mar 1916
CHAR 2/92/73-74 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] (Board of Invention and Research) to Sir Maurice Hankey on the worsening German submarine threat. Annotated typescript copy. 30 Mar 1917
CHAR 2/92/75-76 Letter from Lord Fisher [earlier Sir John Fisher] to Herbert Asquith [later Lord Oxford and Asquith] giving his views on: the possibility of Britain being invaded; the Channel Tunnel; insurance of British shipping in time of war and the submarine threat, a memorandum about which he encloses [see CHAR 2/92/77-79]. Typescript copy with annotations, including some referring to the publication of the letter. May 1914
CHAR 2/92/77-79 Another, incomplete, copy of CHAR 2/92/15-18. [1914] - [1915]