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Reference code: CHAR 2/67

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Date: Jun 1915 - Oct 1915

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Includes correspondence relating to the claim that Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] rather than WSC issued the order for the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914.

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CHAR 2/67/1 Letter Sir Charles Ottley (17 Queens Gate Gardens, [London]) to WSC expressing thankfulness that WSC is to remain in the Cabinet. 02 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/2 Letter from Llewellyn Atherley-Jones (Stafferton Lodge, Bray Wick, Berkshire) to WSC praising his recent speech in Dundee on the war situation. 06 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/3 Letter from Lord Mersey [earlier Sir John Bigham] (22 Grosvenor Place, [London]) to WSC praising his speed [at Dundee on 5 June], in particular his tribute to Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane], whose exclusion from the Cabinet Mersey believes to be a national misfortune. 06 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/4 Letter from John Seely [later Lord Mottistone] (France) to WSC congratulating him on being in the Cabinet "with even greater scope than before" and praising the conduct at the front of Sir Archibald Sinclair [later Lord Thurso]. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/5 Letter from J L Garvin (Shootlands, Wotton, Dorking, [Surrey]) to WSC expressing confidence that WSC's forthcoming speech [at Dundee on the war situation] will be powerful and explaining that it is still uncertain whether he (Garvin) will continue as editor of the Observer. Describes his correspondence with Waldorf Astor [later 2nd Lord Astor of Hever Castle] on this matter and how he has written to Nancy Astor [later Lady Astor] asking her to take the judgement of Arthur Balfour [later Lord Balfour] judgement on naval policy. Notes that the Unionists support David Lloyd George. 03 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/6 Letter from WSC (Duchy of Lancaster Office) to John Seely [later Lord Mottistone] expressing pleasure at the good performance at the Front of Sir Archibald Sinclair [later Lord Thurso] [Seely's Acting Brigade Major] and describing his current position in the Cabinet and the general political situation, including the activities of David Lloyd George, in a style appropriate to a report of a military campaign. Copy in the hand of Edward Marsh. 12 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/7 Letter from W Loney (St James's Vicarage, Stockton-on-Tees, [County Durham]) to WSC thanking him for his "heartening speech" [at Dundee on the war situation on 5 June] and praising his work and that of David Lloyd George. Agrees that conscription would be inappropriate. [Jun] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/8 Letter from G L Norris (Overthorpe, Penarth, Penarth [Glamorgan, Wales]) to WSC praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation], especially his tribute to Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane], and his work as First Lord of the Admiralty. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/9 Letter from John Elger (Clayton Court, East Lyss, Hampshire) to WSC asserting that the "leisured classes" as well as the working classes should be subject to any scheme of compulsory non-military national service. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/10 Letter from the Bishop of Birmingham [Henry Russell Wakefield] (Bishop's Croft, Birmingham) to WSC praising his recent speech [in Dundee on the war situation] and his work as First Lord of the Admiralty, and inviting him to visit the military hospitals in Birmingham. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/11 Letter from Charles Mayo (Harrow-on-the-Hill, [Middlesex]) to WSC reporting that he has read out WSC's speech at Dundee [on the war situation] to his house at Harrow School. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/12 Letter from Sir Archibald Williamson (36 Belgrave Square, [London]) to WSC congratulating him on his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/13 Letter from George ? (Broomfield, Westcott, near Dorking, [Surrey]) to WSC praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/14 Letter from William Brace (House of Commons) to WSC praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/15 Letter from J T Grein (24 Launceston Place, Kensington, [London]) to WSC praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/16-17 Letter from ? (Price, Pryse & Co Ltd, 32 Victoria Street, [London]) to WSC praising his seech at Dundee [on the war situation] and echoing his tribute to Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane]. As a "Radical and ardent free trader", he laments the ending of the late government and criticises "that glib-tongued political mountebank", Horatio Bottomley. Refers to Haldane's support for the grant of self-government to the Boers. Signed typescript. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/18 Letter from ? (6 Buckingham Palace Gardens, [London]) to WSC praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. 07 Jun [1915]
CHAR 2/67/19 Letter from Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane] (28 Queen Anne's Gate, Westminster, [London]) to WSC thanking him for his generous words about him [in his speech in Dundee on the war situation] and praising the speech generally. 07 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/20 Letter from Mary Haldane (Cloan, Auchterarder, [Perthshire, Scotland]) to WSC thanking him for his tribute to her son Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane] in his speech at Dundee [on the war situation] and stating that she entirely understands Haldane's resignation as Lord Chancellor. 08 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/21 Letter from George Curtis (Plaitford, Romsey, [Hampshire]) to WSC praising his speech [at Dundee on the war situation], in particular his vindication of Lord Haldane [earlier Richard Haldane], and his part in raising Britain to a pre-eminent position. 08 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/22 Letter from Archibald Salvidge (Conservative Club, Liverpool) to WSC praising his speech [at Dundee on the war situation] and his general political conduct. 08 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/23 Letter from J L Garvin (9 Greville Place, [London]) to WSC suggesting a time for them to meet, praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation], and complaining of having his pen "almost totally suppressed in my own country except for Observer purposes". 09 Jun 1915
CHAR 2/67/24 Letter from William Hynes (11 Parkfield Street, Whitworth Park, Manchester) to WSC praising him for remaining in the Cabinet [as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster] and praising his speech at Dundee [on the war situation]. Incorrectly dated May. 09 [Jun] 1915
CHAR 2/67/25 Letter from Waldorf Astor [later 2nd Lord Astor of Hever Castle] (Cliveden,[Buckinghamshire]) to WSC stating that he was personally in favour of a coalition government but that he regrets the attacks on WSC. [Jun] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/26 Letter from 5th Lord Lansdowne (Lansdowne House, Berkeley Square, [London]) to WSC stating that he has an open mind to the wish of "Sunny" [the 9th Duke of Marlborough] to be Lord Lieutenant of Oxfordshire but that the "violent and abusive" language Marlborough used when he came to see Lansdowne did not help him. 07 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/27 Letter from WSC (Duchy of Lancaster Office) to 5th Lord Lansdowne on how painful a blow it would be to "Sunny" [the 9th Duke of Marlborough] to be passed over for the Lord Lieutenantcy of Oxfordshire. Copy in the hand of Edward Marsh. 06 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/28 Letter from the 9th Duke of Marlborough to WSC expressing satisfaction at his appointment as Lord Lieutenant of Oxfordshire and thanking WSC for his support. [Jul] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/29 Letter from James Caird (Belmont Castle, Meigle, Perthshire, Scotland) to WSC thanking him for returning surplus funds for the campaign for Home Rule for Scotland and reporting that he has subscribed 101,000 pounds to War Loan issue and that he is sending sandbags from his works to Boulogne [France]. 11 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/30 Letter from "Asphodel" to [WSC] reporting a prophecy made 38 years previously by "two witnesses of the Apocalypse" that WSC would be Prime Minister at about 45 years of age and that "this war will not end quite as you would wish". Mentions that the same witnesses were aware (by psychic means) of the existence of five of the moons of Jupiter before they were discovered by science. 14 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/31-32 Letter from Frederick Guest (Aldford House, 26 Park Lane, [London]) to WSC enclosing a memorandum on compulsory military service and the reorganisation of the War Office [see CHAR 2/67/33-38], reporting that private MPs are becoming increasingly dissatisfied at not having more information from the Government about the conduct of the war and suggesting that WSC become "a free lance and a powerful patriotic critic" of the Government. He thinks the Minister of Munitions should have complete control over the Ordnance Department and that a Cabinet of 22 is too cumbersome to make quick decisions. Signed typescript. 21 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/33-38 Memorandum for the Cabinet by Frederick Guest advocating compulsory military service and reorganisation of the War Office. Typescript. Sent with CHAR 2/67/31-32. [Jul] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/39-40 Letter from P A ? Perrey (8 Waterloo Place, Pall Mall, [London]) to WSC making various predictions about the course of the war which he claims to have been revealed to him by God. 24 Jul 1915
CHAR 2/67/41-43 Letter from Frederick Guest (Head Quarters, British Army) to WSC proposing to circulate to all MPs a memorandum advocating compulsory military service and to produce a pamphlet for the working classes detailing the positive aspects of the measure. 04 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/44-45 Letter from Frederick Guest (Burley-on-the-Hill, Oakham, Rutland) to WSC asking whether there is any likelihood of truth in the belief of Lord Rothermere [earlier Harold Harmsworth] that the Government will soon fall and that WSC will go with it unless he leaves it now, in which case he may within six months become Prime Minister. 10 Oct [1915]
CHAR 2/67/46 Note from David Lloyd George (Treasury Chambers) to WSC praising [his memorandum of the same date on the war situation]. 15 Oct [1915]
CHAR 2/67/47 Letter from J L Garvin (9 Greville Place, [London]) to WSC asserting that Gallipoli should not be abandoned and that the resignation of Sir Edward Carson [later Lord Carson] from the Government will not have much good effect. 20 Oct 1915
CHAR 2/67/48 Letter from Sir Edward Goulding (Wargrave, [Berkshire]) to WSC urging him to stay in the Cabinet and describing the resignation of Sir Edward Carson [later Lord Carson] as a failure. 24 Oct [1915]
CHAR 2/67/49 Letter from General Sir Ian Hamilton (1 Hyde Park Gardens, [London]) to WSC praising his Cabinet minutes, asking whether the place of Lieutenant-General Sir Charles Monro has been filled and expressing his own wish for a military command under Sir John French [later Lord French and Lord Ypres]. 26 Oct 1915
CHAR 2/67/50 Letter from WSC (18 Abingdon Street, Westminster, [London]) to Herbert Asquith [later Lord Oxford and Asquith] supporting the principle of a War Executive composed of the Prime Minister and the heads of the two military departments but announcing that he (WSC) is leaving office now that his work in the War Council has ended. Criticises the management of the war and asserts that the truth about the initiation of the Dardanelles expedition should be made public. Draft in the hand of Edward Marsh. An earlier draft at CHAR 2/67/51. 30 Oct 1915
CHAR 2/67/51 Letter from WSC (Claridge's Hotel, Brook Street, [London]) to Herbert Asquith [later 1st Lord Oxford and Asquith] supporting the principle of a War Executive composed of the Prime Minister and the heads of the two military departments but announcing that he (WSC) is leaving office now that his work in the War Council has ended. Criticises the management of the war and asserts that the truth about the initiation of the Dardanelles exhibition should be made public. Draft in WSC's hand. A later draft at CHAR 2/67/50. 29 Oct 1915
CHAR 2/67/52 Newspaper cuttings on the claim that Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven], rather than WSC, gave the order for the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914. Sent with CHAR 2/67/54. Originally with a tag marked "A". 09 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/53 Typescript carbon copy of CHAR 2/67/55. Originally with a tag marked "B". 10 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/54 Letter from Charles Potts, honorary secretary of the Ewesley Road Wesleyan Church Men's Hour (23 Sydenham Terrace, Sunderland) enclosing and commenting on newspaper cuttings on the claim that Prince Louis of Battenberg, [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] rather than WSC, gave the order to the Fleet to stand fast in July 1914 [see CHAR 2/67/52]. 09 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/55 Statement by S H Phillips that, as Resident Clerk at the Admiralty, he connected WSC by telephone to the First Sea Lord [Prince Louis of Battenberg, later 1st Lord Milford Haven] before the latter instructed him (Phillips) to send a telegram ordering the Fleet to stand fast at Portland [Dorset]. Sent with the final version of CHAR 2/67/56. A typescript carbon copy at CHAR 2/67/53, a top copy at CHAR 2/67/95. 10 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/56 Letter from WSC (Duchy of Lancaster Office) to Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] enclosing a letter he intends to send to the press in response to the claims that it was Battenberg, rather than WSC, who issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast in July 1914 [see CHAR 2/67/57-58 et al], and a statement by the resident clerk on duty at the time [see CHAR 2/67/55]. Copy in the hand of Edward Marsh. 12 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/57-58 Letter from [Edward Marsh] to [newspaper editors] responding on WSC's behalf to the claim that Prince Louis of Battenberg, [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] rather than WSC, issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914 and detailing the measures taken by the Board of Admiralty at WSC's insistence to ensure that Britain's naval defence was ready when war broke out. Draft in WSC's hand. Other drafts at CHAR 2/67/59-61, 78-80, 93- 94, 96-103. [Aug] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/59-61 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Annotated typescript. Originally with a tag marked "C". Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/62-65 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/66-67. Originally with a tag marked "D". 13 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/66-67 Letter from Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven](East Cowes, [Isle of Wight]) to WSC concurring in the letter which WSC proposes to send to the press concerning the claim that Battenberg rather than WSC issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914 [see CHAR 2/67/59-61 et al] except on one point where it does not correspond to his own recollections. Typescript copies at CHAR 2/67/62-65, 83-86, 87-90. 13 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/68 Telegram from Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven](East Cowes, [Isle of Wight]) to WSC concurring in the amendment and addition to the letter which WSC proposes to send to the press concerning the claim that Battenberg rather than WSC issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914 [see CHAR 2/67/59-61 et al]. Originally with a tag marked "D". 16 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/69-71 Letter from WSC (Duchy of Lancaster Office) to Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] suggesting that Battenberg rather than WSC send the letter to the press which WSC has drafted in response to claims that Battenberg rather than WSC issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914. Originally with a tag marked "E". 18 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/72-73 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/74. Originally with a tag marked "F". 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/74 Letter from Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] (Kent House, East Cowes, Isle of Wight) to WSC explaining why he is reluctant to put his name to a letter to the press [drafted by WSC] responding to claims that he rather than WSC issued the order to the Fleet to stand fast in July 1914, and enclosing as an alternative a letter on the matter from him to WSC for publication [see CHAR 2/67/77]. Typescript copies at CHAR 2/67/72-73, 81-82, 91-92. 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/75-76 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/77. Originally with a tag marked "G". 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/77 Letter (intended for publication) from Prince Louis of Battenberg [later 1st Lord Milford Haven] (Kent House, East Cowes, Isle of Wight) to WSC responding to claims in the press that Battenberg rather than WSC issued the order for the Fleet to stand fast on 26 July 1914 with an account of events showing that he and WSC were working in harmony. Sent with CHAR 2/67/74. A typescript copy at CHAR 2/67/75-76. 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/78-80 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Typescript. Originally with a tag marked "H". Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/81-82 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/74. 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/83-86 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/66-77. 13 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/87-90 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/66-77. 13 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/91-92 Typescript copy of CHAR 2/67/74. 19 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/93-94 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Typescript annotated by WSC. [Aug] [1915]
CHAR 2/67/95 Typescript top copy of CHAR 2/67/55. 10 Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/96-98 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Typescript annotated by WSC. Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/99-100 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Unannotated typescript. Aug 1915
CHAR 2/67/101-103 Another draft of CHAR 2/67/57-58. Unannotated typescript. Aug 1915