Official: Home Office: John Syme case. Correspondence and newspaper cuttings relating to the dismissal of Inspector Syme from the Metropolitan Police.

Reference code: CHAR 12/7

Part of: CHAR 12
Next record: CHAR 12/8
Previous record: CHAR 12/6

Date: 1910 - 1911

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CHAR 12/7/1 Copy of the Police Review and Parade Gossip containing two marked articles relating to nominations for the King's medal submitted for approval by the Home Secretary, and a collecting fund established for the relief of Ex-Inspector [John] Syme. Covering note at CHAR 12/7/2. 04 Aug 1911
CHAR 12/7/2 Letter from Ramsay MacDonald (House of Commons) to WSC informing him of the cost of Mrs [Nellie] Syme's rent. Includes a note by Sir Edward Troup (8 August) [Permanent Under Secretary of State, Home Office] recommending that [WSC] should not pay any money to the Symes, as such a payment could be interpreted as "hush money". He encloses a copy of the Police Review and Parade Gossip [see CHAR 12/7/1] containing evidence of a fund being raised for Syme. 03 Aug 1911 - 08 Aug 1911
CHAR 12/7/3 Letter from [WSC] (Home Office) to [Cecil] Norton [Assistant Postmaster General] objecting to a letter from Norton published in the newspapers concerning the case of Ex-Inspector [John] Syme [see CHAR 12/7/4] which is described as "not in accordance with ministerial responsibility or with fair play". Unsigned manuscript in the hand of WSC. 03 Jul 1911
CHAR 12/7/4 Newspaper cutting of a letter from Cecil Norton [Assistant Postmaster General] to Ex-Inspector [John] Syme expressing the hope that he will be re-instated [in the Metropolitan Police]. [03] [Jul] [1911]
CHAR 12/7/5 Letter from Cecil Norton [Assistant Postmaster General] to WSC marked "private" enclosing papers [not present] in response to WSC's complaints [see CHAR 12/7/3 and CHAR 12/7/4]. Signed manuscript annotated by Edward Marsh. [03] [Jul] [1911]
CHAR 12/7/6 Letter from [Sir Evelyn Ruggles-Brise, Chairman of the Prison Commission] to [WSC] informing him that [Ex-Inspector John] Syme has been granted bail in respect of charges for threatening H[is] M[ajesty] and [WSC]. He advises that observation of Syme should be stopped pending the result of his appeal. Manuscript signed with initials of Sir Evelyn Ruggles-Brise and Sir Edward Troup [Permanent Secretary of State, Home Office]. Annotated by WSC "Quit obsn. wd seem to be the right thing for the present". 17 Jul 1911
CHAR 12/7/7 Letter from [Nellie Syme] the wife of Ex-Inspector [John] Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to [WSC] pleading to be allowed to remain in her flat without paying rent. She urges [WSC] to deal justly with her husband's case and ask about "the treatment they receive at the hands of Reid and Shervington". Manuscript signed with initials. [Jul] [1911]
CHAR 12/7/8 Letter from Nellie Syme [the wife of Ex-Inspector John Syme] (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to [WSC] saying that her husband had not intended to threaten him in his letter [see CHAR 12/7/9-11] and including allegations against members [of the Metropolitan Police]. Signed manuscript. [Jul] [1911]
CHAR 12/7/9-11 Transcript of a letter from Ex-Inspector John Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to Ramsay MacDonald concerning his dismissal and complaints against Sir Edward Henry [Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police]. He intends to expose WSC's "injustice" and adds "Must I kill my opponent with my own hand in order to force a crisis". Typescript, including covering sheet. Covering letter at CHAR 12/7/12. 02 Jun 1911
CHAR 12/7/12 Letter from Guy Stephenson (Assistant Director of Public Prosecutions) to A I Dixon enclosing a transcript of a letter from Ex-Inspector [John] Syme to Ramsay MacDonald [see CHAR 12/7/9-11] for the attention of Sir Edward Troup [Permanent Under Secretary of State, Home Office]. Signed typescript. 15 Jun 1911
CHAR 12/7/13 Letter from [Ex-Inspector] John Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to WSC concerning the "persecution" of Police Constable Greaves. He alleges that Greaves was transferred from Whitechapel [London] to Wapping [London] because he gave evidence against the police in favour of "Morrison" and urges an enquiry into Police methods. Signed manuscript. 23 Apr 1911
CHAR 12/7/14 Letter from John Kempster [editor of the Police Review and Parade Gossip] (69 Great Queen Street, London) to Edward Marsh confirming an appointment with WSC to discuss the case of [Ex-Inspector] John Syme. Signed manuscript. 04 Oct 1910
CHAR 12/7/15-16 Letter from George Edwards (New Scotland Yard) to an un-named addressee reporting on a meeting with [John] Kempster [editor of the Police Review and Parade Gossip] to discuss the case of [Ex-Inspector John] Syme at which it emerged that Kempster was not keen to publish the Commissioner's judgement on the case. Signed typescript. 30 Sep 1910
CHAR 12/7/17 Letter from Herbert Muskett (Wontner & Sons Solicitors, 40 Bedford Place, London) to WSC requesting that additional police papers concerning the case of Ex-Inspector [John] Syme should be made available to him. Signed manuscript. 21 Nov 1910
CHAR 12/7/18-20 Letter from Harry Granger (106 Shepherds Bush Road, London) to WSC concerning the case of Ex-Inspector John Syme, advising WSC to take care that he is not "snuffed out" for the sake of Sir Edward Henry [Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police]. He outlines the publicity surrounding the case; urges WSC to treat Syme justly; and offers to act as negotiator with Syme. Signed manuscript. 23 Oct 1910
CHAR 12/7/21 Letter from Sidney Harris [Under Secretary of State, Home Office] to Mr Mylius concerning the case of [Ex-Inspector John] Syme. He asks whether the editor of the Police Review and Parade Gossip, [John] Kempster, has definitely refused to publish the judgement reached in the case, and tells Mylius to forward the letter to Sir Edward Henry [Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police] if he is unable to answer. Signed manuscript with note by Sir Edward Henry asking Mylius to obtain a statement concerning Kempster's intentions from Mr [George] Edwards. See CHAR 12/7/15-16. 23 Sep 1910
CHAR 12/7/22 Letter from Alfred Lyttelton (Colerne House, Sandwich, Kent) to WSC concerning letters he has received [from Ex-Inspector John Syme] saying that he does not wish to ask a question [in the House of Commons] as it might encourage [Syme] to believe that Lyttelton thought him "ill-used". Signed manuscript. 11 Jun 1910
CHAR 12/7/23 Note to Edward Marsh instructing him to prepare a letter to [Alfred Lyttelton] concerning the effect which asking a question [in the House of Commons] would have on [Ex-Inspector John] Syme. Typescript. 15 Jun 1910
CHAR 12/7/24 Copy of the Police Review and Parade Gossip containing a marked article on the case of Ex-Inspector John Syme. Covering letter at CHAR 12/7/25. 03 Jun 1910
CHAR 12/7/25 Note from [John Kempster] the editor of the Police Review and Parade Gossip (69 Great Queen Street, London) asking that the enclosed [see CHAR 12/7/24] be brought to the attention of [WSC]. Unsigned typescript. 02 Jun 1910
CHAR 12/7/26 Copy of the Westminster Express containing two articles marked for attention: "What I Hear" by The Scout (containing a reference to the case of Ex-Inspector John Syme) and "Police 'Discipline' Scandal: the Syme case and an instance of excessive discipline." The latter is annotated by WSC "Sir E[dward] Troup [Permanent Under Secretary of State, Home Office] Please speak to me about this". 27 May 1910
CHAR 12/7/27-28 Letter from Sir Edward Henry [Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police] (New Scotland Yard) to WSC. He is concerned that WSC may over-rule his decision to dismiss Inspector [John] Syme from the Metropolitan Police and explains that he acted with the approval of Herbert Gladstone [former Home Secretary], and that if his decision were repealed it would place him in an "intolerable position". Signed manuscript. The first page of the letter is CHAR 12/7/28. 20 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/29 Letter from [Ex-Inspector] John Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to Edward Marsh confirming an appointment with WSC on 22 April. Signed manuscript. 21 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/30 Printed letter from Ex-Inspector John Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to the Scottish Members of the House of Commons. He appeals for their assistance against [WSC's] decision to refuse him the right of appeal to the House of Commons on grounds that he was a police officer, and says that he is forwarding the letter to the Scottish newspapers. Signed. Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/31 Note from Sir Edward Troup [Permanent Under Secretary of State, Home Office] to [WSC] enclosing [a letter from Ex-Inspector John Syme, see CHAR 12/7/30] and noting "if Symes [sic] were re-instated after this, it would be the end of all discipline". Manuscript signed with initials. 19 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/32 Newspaper cutting from the Westminster Express of an article entitled "Ex-Inspector [John] Syme: the case for a full and independent enquiry". 08 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/33 Newspaper cutting from the Police Review and Parade Gossip of an article entitled "The Case of Ex-Inspector Syme" including correspondence between "an old Policeman" and John Syme. 08 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/34 Letter from Edward Burch, Vice Chairman of the St George's H[anover] S[quare] Liberal Association, (9 Elizabeth Street, Eaton Square [London]) to WSC concerning the case of Ex-Inspector John Syme. He calls attention to a "widespread feeling of discontent" and appeals for an enquiry into the treatment of Syme and for "simple justice" to be done. Signed manuscript. 07 Apr 1910
CHAR 12/7/35 Letter from Ex-Inspector John Syme (13J Chapter Street, Westminster [London]) to [WSC] enclosing a newspaper cutting from The People [marked "w 35"] concerning his dismissal. He appeals for an enquiry and criticises the system of police discipline. Signed manuscript. 07 Apr 1910